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  • #22578
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    Jonathan
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    To get the basics out of the way
    1) Did you buy everything from here?
    Yes

    b)What firmware?
    Marlin RC8

    2) Are you using end stops?
    No

    3) Are you using all my recommended parts?
    Yes, but outdated. I’m using the old middle assembly with an alternate coupler (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1481734) and z-motor mount (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1496582). The optional backlash spring and nut have been removed from the z-axis.

    The machine will make one or two movements, usually only up on the z from origin, then stop. Ryan’s helped me a ton with this and it gives me great cuts when it’s working. Prior to this, I had the issue with z-axis diving (missing steps, rt?) and replaced the z-nut lock, adjusted and lubed the rod, then lowered speed/acceleration settings w/ the new firmware (my cuts only call for 1mm/s z speed). We were thinking it could be a speed command (or lack thereof) from bad gcode that was triggering the board to shut off. Last night I tried and failed to to come up with any combination of G-code generating values/repeats in ESTLCAM that would result in a proper speed for z and a higher speed for x-y, separated onto different lines w/ appropriate code.

    Then I tried the test-file.nc (Ryan’s logo, attached) and it too stops after a slight z movement up. As do all of the .nc files I’ve produced in the past few weeks that have previously cut fine on the machine.

    I’ve checked for loose wires and bad connections along the z. I have the RJ45 connectors as used here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:858155 and all looks good. And I have a fan running on the ramps board. Last month I tried to get the machine working on ESLTCAM (latest version) for control (eliminating Repetier Host) and wound up frying the stepper drivers attempting to double check the voltage. This is a brand new card from Ryan, so the stepper voltage should not be the prob.

    The machine responds to manual control without hitch via RH (latest version) – no missed steps, buzzing or jamming along the z-axis that I notice.

    Does anyone have an idea why it freezes upon beginning a job? Please let me know if there’s any other info or pics I could post to help figure this out

    Thanks guys

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    1. Test-File.zip
    #22580
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    Ryan
    Keymaster

    It is your gcode. You are asking the z axis too move too fast. The firmware will limit it for a while, but too many bad commands it will stop. In estlcam set it to repeat the “f” command on every line and specify a speed in the box in mm/min.

    #22585
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    Jonathan
    Participant

    If it was my gcode, wouldn’t the Test-File.nc run ok?

    I’ve performed that step. Attached my settings in ESTLCAM and the gcode they produce. I’m using the highlighted bit settings for all my cuts. This code does not run on my machine – it stops just after moving the z. After trying it several times, it did run for a few seconds, but again froze on a z movement. If I’m reading the gcode right, this solution is applying a Rapid Feed of 160mm/min to not only the z, but also to movements the x-y make for G00 lines. Once the machine starts completing jobs again, I’m hoping there’s a better solution than that for long term. Having to limit my travel speeds to under 8mm/s will make larger jobs really slow. Just a few weeks ago I was cutting at speeds I set via bit field w/out a a problem, it’s confusing by why now an extra step is necessary to prevent the machine from shutting down.

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    Now I see why folks paste code lol. Here’s the Gcode that wouldn’t attach:

    ;Project Prindable_TEST__Mod_Under+Over_2
    ;Created by Estlcam version 9 build 9.018
    ;Machining time about 00:04:27 hours

    G90
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    ;No. 11: Pocketing: Cutout 70
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    G00 Z-3.0000 F160
    G01 X59.0248 Y22.8824 F600
    G00 Z5.0000 F160
    G00 X0.0000 Y0.0000 F160

    M05

    #22592
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    Ryan
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    I think your reading the code wrong. It looks fine different speeds for different axis.

    Try not putting a speed in the f box and look at the difference.

    My cut yesterday worked perfect.

    This is not a worka around this is how it is supposed to work. Marlin is just getting stricker on cruddy code.

    #22593
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    Jonathan
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    Then what what could be causing my machine to freeze on the first z-movement if the gcode looks fine?

    Below is the log from a failed job w/ this gcode:

    17:40:27.778 : start
    17:40:27.778 : echo: External Reset
    17:40:27.778 : Marlin 1.1.0-RC8
    17:40:27.780 : echo: Last Updated: 2016-12-06 12:00 | Author: (none, default config)
    17:40:27.780 : Compiled: Dec 11 2016
    17:40:27.784 : echo: Free Memory: 3509 PlannerBufferBytes: 1232
    17:40:27.784 : echo:Hardcoded Default Settings Loaded
    17:40:27.784 : echo:Steps per unit:
    17:40:27.788 : echo: M92 X200.00 Y200.00 Z4535.44 E200.00
    17:40:27.788 : echo:Maximum feedrates (mm/s):
    17:40:27.792 : echo: M203 X190.00 Y190.00 Z8.40 E25.00
    17:40:27.792 : echo:Maximum Acceleration (mm/s2):
    17:40:27.792 : echo: M201 X500 Y500 Z35 E10000
    17:40:27.796 : echo:Accelerations: P=printing, R=retract and T=travel
    17:40:27.797 : echo: M204 P400.00 R3000.00 T400.00
    17:40:27.805 : echo:Advanced variables: S=Min feedrate (mm/s), T=Min travel feedrate (mm/s), B=minimum segment time (ms), X=maximum XY jerk (mm/s), Z=maximum Z jerk (mm/s), E=maximum E jerk (mm/s)
    17:40:27.809 : echo: M205 S0.00 T0.00 B20000 X4.00 Y4.00 Z0.20 E5.00
    17:40:27.809 : echo:Home offset (mm)
    17:40:27.809 : echo: M206 X0.00 Y0.00 Z0.00
    17:40:27.810 : echo:Material heatup parameters:
    17:40:27.813 : echo: M145 S0 H196 B60 F0
    17:40:27.813 : M145 S1 H240 B110 F0
    17:40:27.813 : echo:PID settings:
    17:40:27.817 : echo: M301 P17.98 I0.98 D83.62
    17:40:27.817 : echo:Filament settings: Disabled
    17:40:27.817 : echo: M200 D3.00
    17:40:27.817 : echo: M200 D0
    17:40:34.223 : echo:SD init fail
    17:40:34.254 : echo:DEBUG:INFO,ERRORS
    17:40:34.254 : echo:Active Extruder: 0
    17:40:34.254 : echo:DEBUG:INFO,ERRORS
    17:40:34.255 : echo:Active Extruder: 0
    17:40:51.804 : Error:Printer halted. kill() called!

    #22594
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    Ryan
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    When I get back I can put the old firmware back up (I think I took it down).

    #22596
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    Ryan
    Keymaster

    Did your machine work with the old firmware?

    #22597
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    Ryan
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    Dam your right something is not working.

    I can 3d Print, and run test scripts but anything generated from estlcam fails….testing a fix now

    #22601
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    Jonathan
    Participant

    Hey, yeah, I think it did work better prior to the RC8 update. Thanks for all the work man

    #22606
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    Martin DB
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    You can try reducing the Z max speed, just send this gcode prior to running the “killing” gcode file:

    M203 X190.00 Y190.00 Z7 E25.00

    This works for me.

    #22608
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    Ryan
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    It is just with estlcam I think. Sorry this is in two threads now but I am working on it. all the slicers work fine, image2gcode works better, the speed corrected torture test works perfect…just estlcam.

    #22609
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    Barry
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    Is this for the printer, or the cnc? I’ve been using the latest beta of estlcam for the last two days of milling on my z touch plate, not noticed anything funky.

    #22610
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    Ryan
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    Thats what I thought Barry. I milled a job just fine. It doesn’t work now with ESTLCAM, How are you generating your Gcode?

    #22612
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    Ryan
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    It is definitely an issue with estlcam. The first 3 commands do not get issues speed orders “F300” and Z commands are getting speed command the same as the X and y not the Z speeds no matter What I do.

    #22614
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    Ryan
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    I emailed Christian. I hope he has an easy answer. Sorry for all the hassle folks.

    #22620
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    Barry
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    I’m using estlcam to generate the code. See attached. Speeds for the second part are way too fast, but that was my mistake. I redid it with a slower feed rate and it ran fine.

    Attachments:
    1. outline_hole.zip
    #22636
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    Ryan
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    That didn’t work for me crashed right away. You are using RC8?

    #22648
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    Barry
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    Yep, flashed right before I started doing all the aluminum milling. That’s weird. Is there anyway to see what firmware is running without a screen? Maybe something failed and it just looked like it flashed…

    #22649
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    Ryan
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    You should be able to see the version in repetier. alt-p or printer menu the printer information

    #22651
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    Barry
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    Nope, just says Marlin.

    Ah, hah! Ardunio software has a serial app.

    start
    echo:Marlin1.0.2
    echo: Last Updated: Dec  9 2016 11_25_1518:14:06 | Author: PID, ALLTED
    Compiled: Dec  9 2016
    echo: Free Memory: 3749  PlannerBufferBytes: 1232
    #22654
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    Jonathan
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    Ryan, if it’s working as a printer, could it have something to do with the lack of an extruder somewhere in the communication? I notice RH doesn’t like to keep my adjustments from 1 down to 0 extruders – and I know the firmware makes us specify 1, 2, 3 or 4 extruders. I have had errors show up on failed prints at the M105 command. Could it be hanging because it’s trying to check temp or monitor an extruder that isn’t activated?

    #22660
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    Ryan
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    No. Estlcam is not generating clean gcode.
    If you look in your above code the first three lines do not have speed commands (no “F300” ect).

    Then if you look further down the z axis is being asked to rapid move too fast and not obeying the tool speeds (G00).

    This used to get compensated for in the gcode but would result in missed z steps. I redesigned the whole center of the gantry thinking I was doing something wrong. It is 100% an estlcam gcode issue. Our z axis can not move as fast as the x and y axis, nether can most machines.

    I have emailed him with details.

    For now either use my RC7, or use something else like fusion 360. I will give him a little bit to respond but maybe it is time to switch the site tutorials over to fusion, bummer.

    I have a brand new machine sitting in the garage that only needs about an hour to finish it. So that is my goal for the day.

    I did the same thing as Barry. I flashed all the machines in the office and had them running scripts and 3D prints for 24 hours, went into the shop and forgot to flash the machine but ran some cuts then I mistakenly gave RC8 my blessing. To be fair Rc8 is awesome, but I have shipped a bunch of what I assume are Christmas presents with it and need to find a solution before Dec 25th. And I have a new machine to maybe release…dang it this really screwed up my week. That is what I get for trying to do things too soon.

    #22668
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    Jonathan
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    There are so many moving parts here – gotta be like trying to keep a band together when everyone’s got solo careers lol

    Not sure if this will help, but I’m using the latest Arduino release and pulling an error while compiling the RC7 named B16_32-LCD-112515 (no LCD). Attached a shot of the error.

    The RC7 namd Marlin_16_32_090615_therm compiles fine, but I noticed the speeds are all in mm/sec, not mm/min. EDIT: No, sorry for the confusion, it’s just that the max feedrate and acceleration are significantly higher. Attached a shot of that too.

    I’ll install the therm version w/ defaults and send an update.

    #22672
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    Ryan
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    Neither of those look like my firmware, My edit all have “//mpcnc” after them.

    You should have no issues flashing my RC7 with the new arduino. If you do not want to use the lcd, the only edit you should be making to my firmware is adding “//” in front of the reprap lcd in config.h.

    #22673
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    Jonathan
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    I’m getting everything from your Marlin update page.

    B16_32-LCD-112515 – Use this if you don’t have the full Graphic LCD screen.”

    I don’t have a screen/sd card mod so that’s the one I thought I should use.

    I guess I should be using this one? “Beta for new Arduino software–Marlin RC7 MPCNC w/LCD , tested with arduino 1.6.11 fully updated using the U8glib. ”

    I’ll try that now

    #22677
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    Jonathan
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    Alright, I’m back on the RC7 you recommended and it’s working great.

    A couple of tricks tho, I had the same error compiling as I did before – I guess in the newest Arduino build (1.6.13) according to this post:

    Rename fpos_t variables in SdBaseFile.h and SdBaseFile.cpp to another name like fpos_t1 and recompile. Problem is in C++ you can not use typedef and struct for the same varibale name.

    So after renaming a few things, it compiled. And I had to dl and add the U8GLIB (even though I’m not using an LCD). Maybe remming out the right lines in config.h would prevent that, but I looked through it a few times and couldn’t find any specific line that was unremmed and looked like it enabled the LCD.

    No freezes and no dives, I’m gonna go cut stuff now wooooooooooooot

    #22678
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    I made the same mistake and downloaded the “B16…..” firmware. My eyes totally missed the RC7 that Ryan had made all of his changes to. Thats the one that works 100% for me with Estlcam. I’m a happy camper with that setup.

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