- February 15, 2017 at 11:04 pm #27640
So I saw a bar sign online that had your normal pocket cut inside a frame, along with your raise letters (batman). This one happen to have an addition set of raised letter (the joker). I know how to do the pocket cut with one set of raised letters, but how do you create the second set?
It looks like the center raised letter (batman/the joker) equal the height of the frame.
ZFebruary 16, 2017 at 9:28 am #27663
Can’t see the picture but I would assume just use two different depths of cut on each letter set. I am not sure how estlcam creates letter paths but if you did it in a different program and flatten the two layers (so you get intersecting lines) you would just need to carefully select the pocket/island depths.February 16, 2017 at 9:52 am #27668
Ryan, how do I change the depth on the letters. For example, I have a square that is 10mm thick. I want to pocket out 8mm, but want the letters raised only 6mm (or recessed 2mm) from the top. I swear I have it right, but the preview shows the letters at 0mm (not 2mm).
So what I would expect to see in the preview is the first 2mm of the square cut out, then the next 6mm cut around the letter.
ZFebruary 16, 2017 at 9:58 am #27669
It would be similar to this.February 16, 2017 at 12:59 pm #27687
I’m at a lose. I must of tried 100 different ways, but I have to be screwing up the selection/tool order. I even dummied it up, and tried just a object and a square.
Attachments:February 16, 2017 at 3:08 pm #27713
I think I got it 🙂
So the idea here is to have a frame as a border, and have a raised object that is lower then the border. Having the object the same height as the border I was able to do , but I could not figure out how to drop the object.
If your using my zip file as an example: (Estlcam 10.010)
1) Select Hole and click on the outer most line. Select Start Level 0.00mm and depth of pocket ( or top of object) to 2.0mm. Click Pocket (part turns red)
2) Select Part and click inner object(s) (in this example the H). Select start level (2.0mm) and depth of pocket (4.0mm). This is how thick you want to object to be from the bottom.
3) Select Hole and click the outer most line (again). Click Island
Now the task is to add 2 objects at different heightsFebruary 16, 2017 at 3:31 pm #27721
Without a picture I have no idea. The above link doesn’t work. If your cam looks right check the preview and try it in foam first.February 16, 2017 at 4:37 pm #27722
I think this is what your after?? Ive let Estlcam get the best of me recently so I’m glad to help if I can at all.
Attachments:February 16, 2017 at 5:17 pm #27729
Brian, do you have the estlcam file you worked on? I see the gcode file, but I can’t visualize it in Repetier (unless there is a trick, in estlcam I can hit preview)
Ryan, can you see any pics I posted in the other threads or is just this one bad? If you copy the link and remove the ‘s’ from https you should see it. I can’t edit a previous post.
ZFebruary 16, 2017 at 5:21 pm #27735
Removing the s doesn’t work for me. None of those links seem to work in other thread’s either.February 16, 2017 at 5:42 pm #27737
Interesting I thought I could share the pics from google images. I guess I could attach them?
Brian, lets compare notes, attached is what I was looking to do.
Attachments:February 16, 2017 at 6:42 pm #27752
Zeenon, I checked the zipped file I attached in the previous post and the .e10 file should open with Estlcam v10. If you have 9 it wont open. Open that .e10 file and you will see the tool paths. I only did the Batman, and the Joker. Not the border. I also had to resize it because it was bigger than my machine size.February 16, 2017 at 7:06 pm #27755
I must be losing it, i open the file in 10.010 and it’s only the line art. I hit preview and there is no objects. I do see the outline in repetier, but that doesn’t help me 🙂
ZFebruary 17, 2017 at 4:20 am #27762
Weird but let me make sure I understand you. You want raised letter correct? Not engraved into the wood. So material all around the Batman, joker, etc stays either normal material height, or slightly lower.
This is exactly the same thing I will be doing for my house sign. I’ll create this again shortly (getting ready for work now) and post it here.February 17, 2017 at 5:39 am #27768
Attached is a perfect example.
Attachments:February 17, 2017 at 6:45 am #27772
Ok, I was able to work on this and was able to get exactly what you want EXCEPT (there is always a but), The “Joker” in the middle did not work properly. Here is why I think it is not working. I have attached a picture but basically Estlcam is clinging to the entire letter, and not the little parts that need to be separated from the Batman. So Its eating into the joker text. I hope I’m making since. I see what you want but have no idea how to fix it. Maybe (ive never tried this) you can create a file without the joker text, then unis the INSERT option in Estlcam and it may let you choose the little parts.
Attachments:February 17, 2017 at 7:25 am #27776
A quick and dirty way to do it would be to make one dxf with the joker text, and one dxf with the batman and joker text, then do the joker pocket operation in one gcode file, and the batman and joker (make sure you don’t pocket the joker!) in a separate gcode file, then just run them back to back, without turning the machine off. I would try this in foam first, if you’re not sure you’re doing it right. This might do a bunch of ghost cutting where the first pocket was already cut, but no big deal, really.
If you did this in estlcam, I would think you would make the outside edges of joker first, then do an inside cut on the border, and then hit the island, set that depth to something. Then do an outside on the batman letters, and do an inside cut on the border, with the island again. I would think that would choose the new outsides for the island. As Brian said, you’ll have to be careful with those overlapping letters, you’ll probably have to do their outline with the manual tool.February 17, 2017 at 7:26 am #27777
Also, to paste in google images, you have to share them first. When they are public, you can click on them so they are in that full screen/black border view, and then right click and copy the address. It’s not 100%, but it works. I should probably just start using imgur though…February 17, 2017 at 9:32 am #27786
Yea, I miss Picasa.February 17, 2017 at 10:13 am #27795
I made that folder public, can you see the picture in the first post in this thread?
ZFebruary 17, 2017 at 12:01 pm #27807
I cant see it still. Ive played with this off and on all day. I tried making the toolpaths and selecting and moving the Joker text, setting what I thought I wanted done and then replacing the text into position. Not sure if I was close or not. Tough one here.
I did however try the manual selection (dots) and it wont work either due to it clinging to each letter, not both letter when one is overlapped with the word batman.February 17, 2017 at 12:28 pm #27810
Brian I owe you a beer for sticking with it!!!!
Did you say in another thread you converted a sign you were making to stl? I’m wondering if it’s easier to design it in sketckUp, export to an .stl and import it into estlcam as an .stl? I also sent Christian from estlcam an email.
ZFebruary 17, 2017 at 12:45 pm #27811
Can’t see the images. You can open this forum topic in a “private” or “incognito” window to see what we see. But basically, when you share an image, it gets a different URL.February 17, 2017 at 12:54 pm #27812
Thanks for the tip, Jeff!!!February 17, 2017 at 4:38 pm #27834
STL will work for sure but its nice knowing how to create the paths manually. Yours said over 22 hours earlier and thats a heck of a long time. I’m in the same boat. I’m gonna need to split my job up and HOPE everything aligns up like it should.
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